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Fates Cry · Apr 04, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Well,

the 117 players a couple months ago that got banned, got a permanent ban.

why only a 3 day ban?

If the 3 day ban is true.....this makes no sense...

Buying gold would be much more of a serious offence than exploiting the game.

My reasoning for this is...

Are the Gold sellers and Gold buyers not required to kick some sort of royalty back to Anet. I mean, it's there game, so it's, there Gold. If you sell "there" gold for a profit, wouldn't you think they would have to pay Anet a royalty?

So even tho the Gold sellers got banned.....they STILL made a huge profit.

as someone had posted earlier...somewhere in the area of 42,000 dollars...WOW!!

But the gold buyers get the gold stripped...and a 3 day ban?

so....why didn't the Mallyx exploiters get all gold and loot stripped and a 3 day ban?

Alex the Great · Apr 04, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

woo hoo anet!!

HawkofStorms · Apr 04, 2008, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Excellent job.

And to paraphrase Monty Python and the Holy Grial "she's not quite dead yet." Good to see Gaile still around.

Phineas · Apr 04, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

...
Terminated 4,876 accounts associated with RMT networks

Removed 190,200,000 purchased gold from 771 players

...

So, if the 190 mill was on active accounts that only received a 3-day ban, how much was on the 4,876 accounts that got a perma-ban? That would be a better indication of how much was removed from the economy.

Also, I don't think these 'stats' amount to much in the way of information. It's like when politicians produce stats to show themselves in a favourable light, making sure only the facts that they want to show are revealed.

Moral55 · Apr 05, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

Still I've noticed an positive effect, no matter how I look at it.

Gaile Gray · Apr 05, 2008, 04:55 AM // 04:55

Oh, and hey, on this topic. When we say we "removed" the gold, in truth we "destroyed" the gold. Something a player said to me last night made me think that there was this image of millions of "reclaimed" gold hidden away in some cyber vaults at ArenaNet.

When we remove the gold, it's deleted from the game.

judgedread33 · Apr 05, 2008, 05:35 AM // 05:35

Gaile with most of the bots gone is there any way we can get rid of lootscaling.

I'm not ranting i just want to know if there is any hope in it making a disappearance.

Gaile Gray · Apr 05, 2008, 07:12 AM // 07:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by judgedread33

Gaile with most of the bots gone is there any way we can get rid of lootscaling.

I'm not ranting i just want to know if there is any hope in it making a disappearance.

I do not know about that. I have relayed the question, but I do not yet have an answer, with apologies.

Lord Sojar · Apr 05, 2008, 08:04 AM // 08:04

I have to say Gaile, bravo, bravo!

Now, give me ectos, or I will tell Jon Sharp and Izzy to tickle you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Oh, and hey, on this topic. When we say we "removed" the gold, in truth we "destroyed" the gold. Something a player said to me last night made me think that there was this image of millions of "reclaimed" gold hidden away in some cyber vaults at ArenaNet.

When we remove the gold, it's deleted from the game.

That Xunlai Chest in Kaineng Center is awfully suspicious. Mind giving me the key?

Medic · Apr 05, 2008, 10:09 AM // 10:09

no more PM's, so GG Anet. Also GG for banning Taiwan.

Commander Kanen · Apr 05, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28

Its good that Anet finaly decided to take action... but this would have been alot better if it was put in place a couple years ago before the economy went down the loo...but still GG

Master Knightfall · Apr 05, 2008, 03:57 PM // 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulterion

GG Anet. No more spamming. Prices will hopefully drop some. I just hope ya'll intend on changing, or even expunging, Loot-Scaling from the game so that players can enjoy the fruits of their farming labors. It's a shame that all the damage the botters, cheaters, dupers, exploiters, etc.'s dealt cannot be reverted. Nonetheless, it's progress. =]

Oh here we go trying to turn yet another thread into a "remove loot scaling" thread. Moderators please keep these people on topic and send them to their one loot scale removal thread instead of hi-jacking every other one on here with their whines about loot scaling please.

Woo · Apr 05, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Lovely!

Thanks Anet!

MrSlayer · Apr 05, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

190.2 million gold in 2 weeks? o_O Jesus..

Numa Pompilius · Apr 05, 2008, 11:40 PM // 23:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Blocked 391 abused IP addresses
Terminated 4,876 accounts associated with RMT networks
Removed 190,200,000 purchased gold from 771 players

Ah, pure beauty.
Thanks Gaile, and relay my thanks to whomever did this!

EDIT: ...and I second Master Knightfalls suggestion above.

Commander Kanen · Apr 06, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

I agree more with Fates Cry .. Buying Gold is far worse than a game bug the 117 should have had there items removed and a 3 day ban.. Anet messed up with that one...however loot scaling wont be removed thats what HM is for end of !

Loviatar · Apr 06, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Kanen

I agree more with Fates Cry .. Buying Gold is far worse than a game bug the 117 should have had there items removed and a 3 day ban.. Anet messed up with that one...however loot scaling wont be removed thats what HM is for end of !

a carefully exploited bug that had been going on for a long time until some stupid ashat got super greedy.

who knows how many things besides armbraces got duped?

not to mention a full 100 plat in inventory each time.

besides that buying the amount of gold they made in minutes is nothing.

also how about the literally thousands of people who traded honest high value items for free duped items............take thair armbraces also?

i hope Anet was not kidding when they said legal action was proceding against the exploiters

Commander Kanen · Apr 06, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

a carefully exploited bug that had been going on for a long time until some stupid ashat got super greedy.

who knows how many things besides armbraces got duped?

not to mention a full 100 plat in inventory each time.

besides that buying the amount of gold they made in minutes is nothing.

also how about the literally thousands of people who traded honest high value items for free duped items............take thair armbraces also?

i hope Anet was not kidding when they said legal action was proceding against the exploiters

You just answerd my point.. 1 duper could make more money in 10 mins than 117 people doing nothing else but the mallyx bug for 3 months solid. Anet knew people would find out about the bug i know of 15 people who reported it months before anything hapened about it... as i said anet was too harsh on them as they had no bannings for any of the other game bugs people exploited and 3 day ban for gold buyers is a joke. i also take it that its only recent gold buyers that got there gold taken from them. people have been selling gold from day one again anet knew about it and only just implomented a "fix" and because its alot more people than the mallyx bug anet couldnt ban them or 1/6 of the gw population would be gone.

I Is Special · Apr 06, 2008, 01:29 AM // 01:29

Anyone know about how much gold is in the entire game atm? I'm curious to see how much 190 mill is compared to how much is in all of guildwars.

Longasc · Apr 06, 2008, 01:29 AM // 01:29

And did anything change for you, did you notice a major price drop yet?

They got 771.

How many thousands did they NOT get?

Not really sorry to point out the negative sides, I still know two guys with duped items and large cash stocks that did not get banned. :>